kanye west interviewed by fiona apple (2005)
Kanye West: Now, when I listen to your shit, I hear similarities. I actually wanted to work with him (Jon Brion) so I could be like the rap version of you. That was one of my main goals. The albums that inspired me for Late Registration were your first one, Tidal  and Portishead's Dummy , but especially your lyrics and how you sing. How is your vocabulary so ill? Were you tight in vocabulary in your school?
Fiona Apple: No, but I just love words. I love looking at phrases books and word origins books because they have so many obsolete, never-used phrases. They have a rhythm to them. You can build a whole song on a phrase that you like because it will spark something in your head, something that's going on with you. You'll hear a phrase and it will just ring true to you. I just love that.
Kanye West: One thing that I like to do is use words that have never actually been used in a rap song before. I also like to take words that have negative connotations and show their real meaning. Like the word "pop." This is a pop album, but pop has a negative connotation if you're a "real artist." The title of The College Dropout--that's what that was. What is so negative about dropping out of college? Why do we automatically shun people who drop out of school?
Fiona Apple: It's a word without a context.
Kanye West: Exactly. And if you think of the examples of people who have dropped out of college that pop into your head, they're like Bill Gates and Michael Jordan.